Welcome to OUTCOME Talks. The podcast series where Cris Beswick and Dan Toma, the co-founders of OUTCOME, interview corporate leaders, practitioners and thinkers from around the world on the strategy, leadership and culture required for driving innovation-led growth.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Andrea Kates, Partner, Get To NEXT

Cris Beswick interviews Andrea Kates, who’s been described as the ‘practitioners practitioner’ for her reputation for getting stuck into things.

Cris and Andrea have a rant about the stuff that most leaders ignore, the elephants in the room that actually hold organisations back. Also in the session, they unpack why most corporate leaders are stuck when it comes to innovation.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Nicole Stroj, Head of Organizational Innovation at Raiffeisen Bank

Dan sat with Nicole and discussed the importance of an innovation strategy for companies aiming at innovation-led growth. Their conversation went from why a strategy for innovation is needed, how to connect one with the core business and how to prioritize various strategic options in the context of large organizations where conflicting personal agendas might get in the way of a clear direction.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Darren Thayre, Head of Innovation and Global Strategic Initiatives at Google

Dan sat with Darren and discussed ways in which companies can get pragmatic with their innovation investments. From how teams should not be discouraged to having business cases early on, all the way to how executives need to approach sunsetting initiatives that don’t work and how they need to consider investing for the future.

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OUTCOME Talks with… René Carayol MBE, Author, Speaker & Executive Coach

Cris Beswick interviews René Carayol MBE whose extensive career spans from Pepsi Board Director to becoming one of the world’s most successful executive Coaches. In a deep dive into what it takes to lead for innovation, Cris and René talk about the shifting nature of leadership, inclusion and why understanding SPIKES is key to building corporate innovation capability.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Claude Silver, Chief Heart Officer at VaynerMedia

Cris Beswick interviews VaynerMedia’s Chief Heart Officer Claude Silver about how she and her team are flipping the traditional HR script. Why ‘paying attention’ is the key to helping people move forward and love what they do. And, why this focus on enabling people to be good ‘Vayner Citizens’ has become the creative engine that powers VaynerMedia.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Chris Baréz-Brown, Founder @ Upping Your Elvis

Cris Beswick discusses love, humanity and energy with Chris Baréz-Brown in an open and frank conversation about why we as humans are simply not designed for the world of work, and work isn’t well designed around humans. Cris and Chris also discuss, leading for innovation and Chris’ pioneering work around mental health.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Farizko Nurditama, COO @ Digital Amoeba by Telkom Indonesia

Dan Toma sat with Farizko Nurditama, the CEO of Telkom Indonesia’s Digital Amoeba, and discussed what it means to measure a company’s innovation system and why should companies do this as a prerequisite for improvement. Farizoko explained what they’ve learned by assessing Telkom Indonesia’s innovation system and what actions they took as a result of that.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Halvor Lande, CEO of Aprila Bank

Dan Toma spoke with Halvor Lande, the CEO of Aprila Bank, about how rapid experimentation is giving ‘challenger banks’ an edge over incumbents and how this approach helped Aprila bank better understand customer needs, leading to early profitability.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Eva McLellan, Managing Director of Roche Slovenia

Dan Toma sat with Eva McLellan, the Managing Director of Roche Slovenia, and discussed what it means to be a resilient/future-proofed organization and how leaders can approach transforming their companies. Eva offered some amazing hands-on advice from her transformation work at Roche Belgium.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Paul Cobban, Former Chief Data and Transformation Officer of DBS Bank

Strap yourself in for an enlightening insight into how Paul and his team at DBS put innovation culture at the centre of their transformation strategy.

Paul documents their journey from ignoring the advice of global consultancies at the time and taking a counterintuitive approach that even involved a Bollywood actor to unpacking what he considers are three key mission critical things when leaders are looking to build a culture of innovation. If building innovation capability and culture is on your agenda, this episode of OUTCOME Talks is The Secret Sauce!

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OUTCOME Talks with… Matthijs van Leeuwen, Chief Innovation Officer at Sunway Group

Dan Toma sat with Matthijs van Leeuwen, the CIO of one of Malaysia’s biggest consortium companies, and discussed the peculiarities of being the CIO of an organization made up of business ranging from education to banking and from real estate to food process. Dan and Matt double clicked on how innovation strategy and capability development is approached in such a context.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Alexander Haneng, SVP Digital Innovation at Norwegian Post

Dan Toma sat with Alexander Haneng and discussed what it takes to drive innovation in a company with more than 150 years of history, a company whose core business is a commodity. The conversation touched on actionable insights as well as some dos and don’ts, useful for people in similar innovation roles who are also trying to make innovation part of organisational culture.

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OUTCOME Talks with… Dan Cockerell, former VP of Disney’s Magic Kingdom

Cris Beswick interviews Dan Cockerell about his amazing career at Disney, leading Disney’s Magic Kingdom, the largest and most popular theme park in the world, his journey as an entrepreneur and what he learned from Walt Disney about how to lead a human-centered and customer-focused organisation. Cris and Dan also talk about what it means to ‘lead for innovation’ and make innovation part of organisational culture.